Cooling Working Group (CWG) Minutes #4
Date of the meeting:
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06/03/97
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Place of the meeting:
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40 2-A01
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Present:
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G. Benincasa, P. Bonneau, M. Bosteels, M. Bozzo, A. Carraro, M.
Edwards, G. Feofilov, J. Godlewski, R. Gregory, J. Gulley, M. Hatch,
G. Hallewel, N. Lupu, C. Nuttal, T. Ohska, E. Perrin, P. Petagna,
W. van Sprolant, V. Vacek.
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Agenda:
- 1- Approval of the previous set of minutes.
- 2- Brief introduction of an evaporative system for Alice Inner Tracking
(St. Petersburg).
- 3- Inventory of the cooling requirements for ATLAS (M. Hatch).
- 4- Safety considerations on coolants (C. Nuttal).
- 5- AOB.
Short Summary:
G. Feofilov (ALICE/St Petersburg) et G. Hallewel (ATLAS/Marseilles)
presented their respective work on the evaporative systems intended for
Tracker cooling. The two teams had different objectives and their state
of progress and prospects also differed.
M. Hatch had drawn up an almost complete list of the heat sources and
cooling requirements of the electronics in the ATLAS detector, which totalled
about 2 MW,
C. Nuttal (TIS) was very doubtful about the massive use of a water/ice/methanol
mixture in the caverns and strongly encouraged his colleagues to find other
fluids for the detectors below 0°C which posed fewer safety hazards.
Detailed Minutes:
- 1- Approval of the previous set of minutes:
To be more precise, M. Bozzo would be co-ordinating cooling efforts
in the CMS tracker, not on the whole CMS.
There had been a misunderstanding about the date of the Advanced Ceramics
Corporation's presentation; it was to be given on 19/3 and not 19/2, and
was therefore on the agenda for meeting # 5.
- 2- Brief introduction of an evaporative system for Alice Inner Tracking
(St. Petersburg):
St. Petersburg was in charge of the cooling of the Inner Tracking System
of ALICE and G. Feofilov gave an account of the state of progress with
their R&D programme.
The ITS consisted of 3 sub-detectors, in the order starting from the
beam pipe::
-Silicon Pixel Detector (SPD) - 450W
-Silicon Drift Detector (SDD) - 350-1900W
-Silicon double sided Strip Detector (SSD) - 2700W
Unlike ATLAS and CMS, the ALICE tracker did not need to be cooled to
temperatures below 0°C and was to be run at 20°C. The SDD, however,
required a thermal stability of 0.1°C and the whole of the ITS structure
had to be kept within a very tight materials budget. St. Petersburg was
therefore examining very thin carbon structures for the SDD and SSD with
integrated cooling channels and their calculations showed that an evaporative
system with fluorocarbons (C5F12) provided the best effectiveness/materials
ratio. There nevertheless remained the problems inherent in that type of
system:
- To achieve thermal stability (0.1°C), the evaporation pressure
(Å 0.7 bar) had to be adjusted within a range of a few mbar for each
exchanger in parallel.
- Owing to the appearance of the vapour phase with bubbles, the thermal
transfer values varied over the whole length of the exchanger tube and
a temperature gradient appeared.
To deal with the latter problem, St. Petersburg was tending towards
a phase separation system, i.e. with a double-walled tube for the gas return.
Another problem examined was the influence of less thermally stable
detectors on the SDD. It would probable be necessary to blow gas axially
to limit the radial heat transfers.
The preliminary examinations and tests on a prototype were thus far
from being completed to the point where a final design could be considered.
G. Hallewel (CPPM) took advantage of his presence at the meeting to
report on the tests conducted at Marseilles for several years on an evaporative
system intended for the ATLAS Pixel detector. The stakes were different,
as there purpose was to cool the detector to around -7°C and the status
was different, too, since the current choice for all the ATLAS Silicon
detectors had fallen upon an underpressure binary ice system.
Nevertheless, the Marseilles collaboration strongly believed in its
technique and G. Hallewel presented the complete file (technical installation
and results) on the tests made with 4 ladders in parallel.
The table of the various possible fluorocarbons was (Ref. 3M-1995):
Table 4-1
The selected fluid was C4F10, which made it possible to work in the
-10/-20°C range with the circuit still at underpressure. There was
no safety problem and the only unknown factor was the radio-chemical yield
G which should be very low.
The installation was developing regularly and its layout was relatively
complex. To put matters simply, the C4F10 at ambient temperature was pumped
to the inlet of the 4 ladders where it was expanded through injectors.
The inlet pipe simulated actual conditions with 16m of i.d. 4 mm tube on
the main pipe and 3m of i.d. 2 mm tube at the inlet to each ladder; each
ladder had 2 pneumatic valves (inlet and outlet) and all 4 ladders were
installed in an insulated box. The vapour was collected at the outlet via
an accumulator tank and recompressed towards the condenser, itself connected
to a fridge unit. The pressure was monitored by a valve controlled by a
pressure sensor at the ladder outlet. The recondensed C4F10 was then returned
to the liquid circuit. A large number of measuring instruments was fitted
in the circuit to measure the pressures, flow rates and temperatures and
the whole system was monitored on LABView. The installation also had provision
for the evacuation and bleeding of the circuits.
G. Hallewel presented various results corresponding to different configurations:
1 ladder, 2 ladders in parallel and 4 ladders in parallel, and load at
0.33 and 0.6 [W/cm2].
His conclusions were:
- -Have met milestone for 1 ladder at full power (0.6[W/cm2]) in quasi
underpressure condition.
- -Have cooled 2 ladders to 0.33[W/cm2] to ~ -6°C
- -Have almost cooled 2 ladders to full power with T< -6°C
Questions:
- -Are our ladders to be pessimistically constructed? (temperature sensors
outboard of heaters and too far from cooling tube)
- -Should we standardise on a single ladder thermal simulator for future
tests ?
- -Problems encountered:
- -Membrane pump throughput insufficient; when Pin <500mbar =>
Pout > 1bara
- (pump spec. is for Pin = Pout = 1bar.)
- Can try reconfiguring membranes and making better choice of condenser
pressure so that DeltaP is not so high.
- - Ladders 1 and 4 seemed less efficient than 2 and 3; don't yet understand
why.
- - Saw substantial variations in DeltaP gauges due in large part to
noise.
Finally, G. Hallewel showed that in terms of the materials budget, an
evaporative system with a modularity of 1 was equivalent to a binary ice
system with a modularity of 4. That was thus a good argument in favour
of the evaporative systems and Marseilles was encouraging the rest of the
ATLAS SCT community to take part in their tests, as a great deal of work
remained to be done to demonstrate the feasibility of such a system. In
sum, the aim was to cool a prototype barrel and a prototype disc (several
ladders in parallel at 0.6 [W/cm2] to -7°C with an underpressure system
and a load loss of under 200 mbar in the exchanger tube.
The documents presented by G. Feofilov and G. Hallewel were available.
- 3- Inventory of the cooling requirements for ATLAS (M. Hatch):
M. Hatch listed all the heat sources (electrical and electronic) dissipating
into the main cavern and the annexes and arrived at a total of about 10
MW for the whole of ATLAS, 2 MW of that in the detector. A technical note
ATL-TC-CERN-EDN-0004-00 was available, and the tables below were taken
from it: Table 4-2
Certain sub-systems were already well defined and their integration was
well advanced (e.g. the calorimeter electronics), while others had yet
to be confirmed (binary ice in the SCT or electronics in the muon chambers)
or were completely unknown to M. Hatch (vacuum beam bake-out or SCT/TRT
active insulation). Those in charge were invited to contact him.
It was currently intended to install 3 binary ice machines in the cavern
annex to supply 8 Si and 3 Pi circuits.
One of the great unknown factors was the method to be used to cool
the power supply cables in the detector.
Leakless cooling was scheduled for the racks (control rooms and main
chamber) and would be dealt with at subsequent meetings.
- 4- Safety considerations on coolants (C. Nuttal):
Various tests and the literature clearly showed that methanol was the
best anti-freeze for the water or binary ice systems, in that it was the
additive which resulted in the least increase in the viscosity of the fluid
and hence in the materials budget.
The ATLAS SCT was to use a binary ice/methanol mixture of 25 to 30%,
or about 600 kg of methanol in the cavern.
M. Edwards of Rutherford Appleton Laboratory Health & Safety Group
gave an account of the measurements made there (Drager tubes) on the tanks
containing the mixture at ambient temperature and at -10°C. The values
measured represented no health hazard and the tanks would simply have to
be ventilated or closed, as small quantities of vapour (1000 ppm) were
detectable when the system was stopped (fluid not circulating).
For information:
Occupational Exposure Limits:
Long Term Exposure Level: 200ppm / 260mg/m3
Short Term Exposure Level: 250ppm / 310mg/m3
For C. Nuttal the problem was rather the flammability of the methanol
and, perhaps, that of the mixture. In the more general context of safety
in the underground experiments, TIS had been working for many years with
the physicists to eliminate flammable gases from the detectors and, in
the case of ATLAS, there was only one gas which currently raised problems,
which was already an enormous success. C. Nuttal thus stressed the
fact that authorising the storage and use of several hundred kilos of methanol
in a cavern would be a very retrograde step where safety was concerned.
Moreover, if, as desired, the final flammable gas were replaced in ATLAS,
the use of methanol alone would require a very expensive fire detection
system.
That was a very delicate point as it was controversial, and a decision
would have to be taken quickly, as there were not many alternatives (TIS'
comments on methanol also applied to acetone).
To mention only the ATLAS SCT (area at ~ -10°C, fluid at ~ -15°C),
the pipework, which had already exceeded the allocated materials budget,
were designed for a binary ice/methanol mixture. Any other mixture (glycol)
or heat-conveying fluid (silicone oil, hydrofluoroether, Dynalene, etc.)
would increase the material for the piping by at least 30%, either because
they were more viscous or because they had a lower specific heat than water.
What remained, therefore, was either to work at high pressure to make
up load losses and thus hope to reduce diameters, or to use evaporative
systems (see item 2 above).
It had been pointed out that the last alternative was to review the
operating temperatures of the silicon detectors upwards; the collaborations
would in any event have to be aware of the technological and financial
stakes entailed by wishing to operate at -10°C.
The next meeting would be held on Wednesday 19/03/97,
Building 112, Room R018 from 10 a.m. to 12 noon.
Agenda:
- 1- Approval of the previous set of minutes.
- 2- Thermal screens (heating and cooling).
- 3- Flow rate measuring methods (W. van Sprolant et al.).
- 4- H.P. Gugerli from Advanced Ceramics Corporation will present their
latest product in thermal management for electronic packaging.
- 5- AOB.
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